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Best equalizer settings for livephish recordings?
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D***@gmail.com
2006-01-16 02:58:14 UTC
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Hi there -- Just wondering if anyone could help me find optimal
equalizer settings for listening to downloaded shows off livephish.com.
I always download the FLACs and I'm looking for a "standard" to fine
tune from before I burn them. Thanks, and hope everyone got to see
part of Trey's most recent tour. I was at 11/15/05 Upper Darby and was
blown away!
p***@mail.buffalostate.edu
2006-01-16 05:12:53 UTC
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im pretty sure livephish does all the "fine tuning" for you,especially
the flac
Craig
2006-01-16 05:15:59 UTC
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Post by p***@mail.buffalostate.edu
im pretty sure livephish does all the "fine tuning" for you,
I agree. They sound fine. I add a bass boost out of personal preference,
but that's for nearly everything I listen to.
Post by p***@mail.buffalostate.edu
especially the flac
I'm sure they're from the same source.
--
Craig

http://www.patik.com/
m***@gmail.com
2006-01-16 05:42:36 UTC
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Your best equalizer setting depends on the room you're listening in.
You should set your equalizer for a flat response -- buy a test-tone CD
and set the equalizer so that you approximate a flat response -- it's
pretty difficult to get truly flat response in a room that isn't a
dedicated listening room, but you do the best you can. What you really
want is to reproduce the sound on the disk as precisely as possible, so
to the extent that your listening environment changes the sound, you're
hearing less than optimal sound. Some artists like Robert Fripp
complain bitterly about people tweaking the sound on his albums by
re-equalizing.
p***@mail.buffalostate.edu
2006-01-16 13:55:28 UTC
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thats a pretty damn complicated way of saying it. for live phish, its
all set to go, and the better the system you listen on the better it
sounds
Unnatural Selection
2006-01-16 16:55:51 UTC
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Yeah, exactly, you shouldn't have to equalize very much. I do find
that some of the LivePhishes are very bass heavy, and I will boost some
of the high end to compensate. Usually it depends on the stereo, and
room that you are listening to it in. (For example, I have a car stereo
made for low end, and I will end up tweaking the car stereo settings a
lot to compensate.) I think that around 96/97 That Paul decided that
the low end was the most important aspect of the music (to his credit,
people were complaining in 95 that it was hard to hear Mike, but I love
the sound Paul got in 95.) and at the same time Trey had started to
muddy his sound making the high end less discernible. I think the mix
sounds like ass on a lot of the post 96 auds....except for 2000, which
seems to sound really good. I wish I had an audio engineering degree,
so that I can better explain what I mean... That said, I think 95 not
only benefits from some of the sweetest music, but Fall 95 was probably
the best SOUNDING tour phish played. The sound on that tour was just
so full and fat. I usually enjoy the auds so much to a lot of those
shows that I find SBDs unnecessary. (I haven't bought 12/31/95 yet,
because my auds sound so good that I probably wouldn't enjoy a SBD copy
much more). On the other hand, I would prefer SBDs of the Fall 97
tour, because most of the auds from that tour are lacking considerably
(imo), with a muddy sounding bass section, a muddy high end, and a
skinny mid range. While the SBDs sound full and plush. I think on
Fall 97, what Paul heard in his headphone monitors was perfect, but
what we heard in the arenas was a little lacking.

Keep in mind, I'm not a pro, and this is just my amateur opinion based
mostly on the audience recordings that circulate now, and also on my
memory of the shows that happened YEARS ago. Perhaps my opinion is
off, if someone has more knowledge, feel free to add to this!
Unnatural Selection
2006-01-16 16:55:54 UTC
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Yeah, exactly, you shouldn't have to equalize very much. I do find
that some of the LivePhishes are very bass heavy, and I will boost some
of the high end to compensate. Usually it depends on the stereo, and
room that you are listening to it in. (For example, I have a car stereo
made for low end, and I will end up tweaking the car stereo settings a
lot to compensate.) I think that around 96/97 That Paul decided that
the low end was the most important aspect of the music (to his credit,
people were complaining in 95 that it was hard to hear Mike, but I love
the sound Paul got in 95.) and at the same time Trey had started to
muddy his sound making the high end less discernible. I think the mix
sounds like ass on a lot of the post 96 auds....except for 2000, which
seems to sound really good. I wish I had an audio engineering degree,
so that I can better explain what I mean... That said, I think 95 not
only benefits from some of the sweetest music, but Fall 95 was probably
the best SOUNDING tour phish played. The sound on that tour was just
so full and fat. I usually enjoy the auds so much to a lot of those
shows that I find SBDs unnecessary. (I haven't bought 12/31/95 yet,
because my auds sound so good that I probably wouldn't enjoy a SBD copy
much more). On the other hand, I would prefer SBDs of the Fall 97
tour, because most of the auds from that tour are lacking considerably
(imo), with a muddy sounding bass section, a muddy high end, and a
skinny mid range. While the SBDs sound full and plush. I think on
Fall 97, what Paul heard in his headphone monitors was perfect, but
what we heard in the arenas was a little lacking.

Keep in mind, I'm not a pro, and this is just my amateur opinion based
mostly on the audience recordings that circulate now, and also on my
memory of the shows that happened YEARS ago. Perhaps my opinion is
off, if someone has more knowledge, feel free to add to this!
D***@gmail.com
2006-01-16 18:37:24 UTC
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Yeah I typically do keep my EQ flat, and then adjust very slightly
based on my personal tastes. I guess it was just this one particular
show that struck me as sounding flat. It was the 11/30/05 Trey show.
It's difficult to pinpoint exactly what is missing. I'll mess around
with it a bit more.

I loved the 97 sounds too and it's a shame they only released two SBD
shows from 97. (Although Live Phish Vol. 12 I think is my personal
favorite, that's from 98. That Mike's Song is so wicked).

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